Filed by: IESI-BFC Ltd.
Pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended
Subject Company: Waste Services, Inc.
Exchange Act File Number of Subject Company: 000-25955
Forward-Looking
Statements
This communication
includes forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor
provisions of the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of
1995 and applicable Canadian securities legislation. Words such as expect, estimate,
project, budget, forecast, anticipate, intend, plan, may, will,
could, should, believes, predicts, potential, continue, and similar
expressions are intended to identify such forward-looking statements. These
forward-looking statements may include, without limitation, Waste Services, Inc.s
and IESI-BFC Ltd.s expectations with respect to: the synergies, efficiencies,
capitalization and anticipated financial impacts of the transaction; approval
of the transaction by Waste Services, Inc. stockholders; the satisfaction
or waiver of the closing conditions to the transaction; and the timing of the
completion of the transaction.
These forward-looking
statements involve significant risks and uncertainties that could cause actual
results to differ materially from the expected results. Most of these factors
are outside our control and difficult to predict. The following factors, among
others, could cause or contribute to such material differences: the ability to
obtain the approval of the transaction by Waste Services, Inc. stockholders;
the ability to realize the expected synergies resulting for the transaction in
the amounts or in the timeframe anticipated; the ability to integrate Waste
Services, Inc.s businesses into those of IESI-BFC Ltd. in a timely and
cost-efficient manner; and the ability to obtain governmental approvals of the
transaction or to satisfy or waive the other conditions to the transaction on
the proposed terms and timeframe. Additional factors that could cause IESI-BFC
Ltd.s and Waste Services, Inc.s results to differ materially from those
described in the forward-looking statements can be found in the 2008 Annual
Report on Form 10-K for Waste Services, Inc., the Registration
Statement on Form F-10, as amended, of IESI-BFC Ltd., the Registration
Statement on Form F-4 of IESI-BFC Ltd., managements discussion and
analysis for the year ended December 31, 2009 of IESI-BFC Ltd., which is
included in IESI-BFC Ltd.s Report of Foreign Issuer on Form 6-K dated February 24,
2010, each filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission (the SEC) and
available at the SECs Internet website (www.sec.gov). Waste Services, Inc.
cautions that the foregoing list of factors is not exclusive. All subsequent
written and oral forward-looking statements concerning Waste Services, Inc.,
IESI-BFC Ltd., the transaction or other matters and attributable to Waste
Services, Inc. or IESI-BFC Ltd. or any person acting on their behalf are
expressly qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements above. Waste
Services, Inc. and IESI-BFC Ltd. do not undertake any obligation to update
any forward-looking statement, whether written or oral, relating to the matters
discussed in this communication, except as required by law.
Additional
Information
The proposed transaction
will be submitted to Waste Services, Inc. stockholders for their
consideration. IESI-BFC Ltd. has filed with the SEC a Registration
Statement on Form F-4 containing a preliminary proxy
statement/prospectus.
Stockholders are
encouraged to read the preliminary proxy statement/prospectus regarding the
proposed transaction and the definitive proxy statement/prospectus when it
becomes available, as well as other documents filed with the SEC because they
contain important information.
Stockholders may obtain a free copy
of the preliminary proxy statement/prospectus, and will be able to obtain a
free copy of the definitive proxy statement/prospectus when it becomes
available, as well as other filings containing information about IESI-BFC Ltd.
and Waste Services, Inc., without charge, at the SECs Internet website
(www.sec.gov).
You may also obtain
copies of all documents filed with the SEC regarding this transaction, without
charge, from IESI-BFC Ltd.s website (www.iesi-bfc.com) or from Waste Services, Inc.s
website (www.wasteservicesinc.com) or by directing a request to IESI-BFC Ltd.,
135 Queens Plate Drive, Suite 300, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M9W 6V1,
Attention: Investor Relations,
(416) 401-7729, or to
Waste Services, Inc., Shareholder Relations, 1122 International Blvd., Suite 601,
Burlington, Ontario, Canada L7L 6Z8, (905) 319-1237.
Proxy
Solicitation
IESI-BFC, Ltd., Waste
Services, Inc., their respective directors and executive officers and
other persons may be deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies
in respect of the proposed transaction. Information regarding IESI-BFC Ltd.s
and Waste Services Inc.s directors and executive officers is available in the
Registration Statement on Form F-4, which was filed with the SEC on January 19,
2010. Other information regarding the participants in the proxy
solicitation and a description of their direct and indirect interests, by
security holdings or otherwise, is also contained in the above-referenced
Registration Statement on Form F-4, and in other relevant materials to be
filed with the SEC when they become available.
THE FOLLOWING IS A TRANSCRIPT OF
THE Q4 2009 EARNINGS CONFERENCE CALL HELD ON FEBRUARY 24, 2010.
DISCLAIMER
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED
IN EVENT TRANSCRIPTS IS A TEXTUAL REPRESENTATION OF IESI-BFC LTD.S CONFERENCE
CALL AND WHILE EFFORTS ARE MADE TO PROVIDE AN ACCURATE TRANSCRIPTION, THERE MAY
BE MATERIAL ERRORS, OMISSIONS, OR INACCURACIES IN THE REPORTING OF THE
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FORWARD-LOOKING
STATEMENTS
This communication
includes forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor
provisions of the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of
1995 and applicable Canadian securities legislation. Words such as expect, estimate,
project, budget, forecast, anticipate, intend, plan, may, will,
could, should, believes, predicts, potential, continue, and similar
expressions are intended to identify such forward-looking statements. These
forward-looking statements may include, without limitation, Waste Services, Inc.s
and IESI-BFC Ltd.s expectations with respect to: the synergies, efficiencies,
capitalization and anticipated financial impacts of the transaction; approval
of the transaction by Waste Services, Inc. stockholders; the satisfaction
or waiver of the closing conditions to the transaction; and the timing of the
completion of the transaction.
These forward-looking
statements involve significant risks and uncertainties that could cause actual
results to differ materially from the expected results. Most of these factors
are outside our control and difficult to predict. The following factors, among
others, could cause or contribute to such material differences: the ability to
obtain the approval of the transaction by Waste Services, Inc.
stockholders; the ability to realize the expected synergies resulting for the
transaction in the amounts or in the timeframe anticipated; the ability to
integrate Waste Services, Inc.s businesses into those of IESI-BFC Ltd. in
a timely and cost-efficient manner; and the ability to obtain governmental
approvals of the transaction or to satisfy or waive the other conditions to the
transaction on the proposed terms and timeframe. Additional factors that could
cause IESI-BFC Ltd.s and Waste Services, Inc.s results to differ
materially from those described in the forward-looking statements can be found
in the 2008 Annual Report on Form 10-K for Waste Services, Inc., the
Registration Statement on Form F-10, as amended, of IESI-BFC Ltd., the
Registration Statement on Form F-4 of IESI-BFC Ltd., managements
discussion and analysis for the year ended December 31, 2009 of IESI-BFC
Ltd., which is included in IESI-BFC Ltd.s Report of Foreign Issuer on Form 6-K
dated February 24, 2010, each filed with the Securities and Exchange
Commission (the SEC) and available at the SECs Internet website
(www.sec.gov). Waste Services, Inc. cautions that the foregoing list of
factors is not exclusive. All subsequent written and oral forward-looking
statements concerning Waste Services, Inc., IESI-BFC Ltd., the transaction
or other matters and attributable to Waste Services, Inc. or IESI-BFC Ltd.
or any person acting on their behalf are expressly qualified in their entirety
by the cautionary statements above. Waste Services, Inc. and IESI-BFC Ltd.
do not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statement,
whether written or oral, relating to the matters discussed in this
communication, except as required by law.
ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION
The proposed transaction
will be submitted to Waste Services, Inc. stockholders for their
consideration. IESI-BFC Ltd. has filed with the SEC a Registration
Statement on Form F-4 containing a preliminary proxy
statement/prospectus.
Stockholders are
encouraged to read the preliminary proxy statement/prospectus regarding the
proposed transaction and the definitive proxy statement/prospectus when it
becomes available, as well as other documents filed with the SEC because they
contain important information.
Stockholders may obtain a free copy
of the preliminary proxy statement/prospectus, and will be able to obtain a
free copy of the definitive proxy statement/prospectus when it becomes
available, as well as other filings containing information about IESI-BFC Ltd.
and Waste Services, Inc., without charge, at the SECs Internet website
(www.sec.gov).
You may also obtain
copies of all documents filed with the SEC regarding this transaction, without
charge, from IESI-BFC Ltd.s website (www.iesi-bfc.com) or from Waste Services, Inc.s
website (www.wasteservicesinc.com) or by directing a request to IESI-BFC Ltd.,
135 Queens Plate Drive, Suite 300, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M9W 6V1, Attention:
Investor Relations, (416) 401-7729, or to Waste Services, Inc.,
Shareholder Relations, 1122 International Blvd., Suite 601, Burlington,
Ontario, Canada L7L 6Z8, (905) 319-1237.
PROXY
SOLICITATION
IESI-BFC, Ltd., Waste
Services, Inc., their respective directors and executive officers and
other persons may be deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies
in respect of the proposed transaction. Information regarding IESI-BFC Ltd.s
and Waste Services Inc.s directors and executive officers is available in the
Registration Statement on Form F-4, which was filed with the SEC on January 19,
2010. Other information regarding the participants in the proxy
solicitation and a description of their direct and indirect interests, by
security holdings or otherwise, is also contained in the above-referenced
Registration Statement on Form F-4, and in other relevant materials to be
filed with the SEC when they become available.
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Conference Call
Event
Date/Time: Feb. 24. 2010 / 8:30AM ET
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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Chaya
Cooperberg
IESI-BFC Ltd - Director, IR,
Corp. Comm.
Keith Carrigan
IESI-BFC Ltd - Vice Chairman,
CEO
Tom Cowee
IESI-BFC Ltd - VP, CFO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Walter Spracklin
RBC Capital Markets - Analyst
Scott Levine
JPMorgan - Analyst
Avi Dalfen
Macquarie Research Equities -
Analyst
Michael Hoffman
WSI - Analyst
Bob Gibson
Octagon Capital - Analyst
Youssef Abboud
Clarus Securities - Analyst
Bill Fisher
Raymond James - Analyst
Rupert Merer
National Bank Financial -
Analyst
Jason Granger
BMO Capital Markets - Analyst
Jonathan Ellis
Bank of America - Analyst
Neal Forester
Genuity Capital - Analyst
PRESENTATION
Good morning. My name is
Chris, and I will be your conference operator. At this time I would like to
welcome everyone to the IESI-BFC Q4 2009 earnings conference call. (Operator
Instructions). Thank you.
Ms. Cooperberg, you
may begin your conference.
Chaya Cooperberg
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IESI-BFC
Ltd - Director, IR, Corp. Comm.
Thank you, Chris and
good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us today. On the call we have
Keith Carrigan, Vice Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Tom Cowee, Vice
President and Chief Financial Officer, who will both provide comments on the
results over the three and 12 months ended December 31, 2009. Also on the
call are Mickey Flood, President, and Joe Quarin, Executive Vice President and
Canadian Chief Operating Officer, both of whom will also be available to answer
questions during the Q&A period.
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Our remarks and answers
to your questions today may contain forward-looking information about future
events or the Companys future performance. Although forward-looking statements
are based on what management believes to be reasonable assumptions, the Company
cannot assure shareholders that actual results will be consistent with these
forward-looking statements. The Company disclaims any intention or obligation
to update or revise any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new
information, future events, or otherwise. We also do not commit to continue
reporting on items or issues that arise either during our presentation or in
the discussion that will follow except as required by applicable securities
laws. This information by its nature is subject to risk and uncertainties that
may cause actual events or results to differ materially. Please refer to the
bottom of yesterdays news release for further information and to our MD&A
for a more complete description of the risks affecting our business and our
industry.
On the call we will
discuss non-GAAP measures such as EBITDA and free cash flow. Please refer to
our press release for our definition of such non-GAAP measures. Management uses
non-GAAP measures to evaluate and monitor the ongoing performance of our
operation and other companies may calculate these non-GAAP measures
differently. A telephone replay of this conference will be available until
midnight on March 10, and details of that replay are available in our
press release.
With that, I will now
turn the call over to Keith Carrigan, Vice Chairman and CEO.
Keith Carrigan
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IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Thank you, Chaya.
Welcome everyone. 2009 was both a challenging and yet enormously rewarding time
for our Company. Some areas of our business were affected by the economic
recession, but by anticipating the downturn and adjusting our market focus
strategies, our financial results for the year are in line with the performance
records we set in 2008. These results were produced during the most difficult
economic cycle we have faced in North America in several decades. They are a
testament to the flexibility of our open market, urban focused operating model
as well as to the focus and dedication of our employees.
Against the backdrop we
are very pleased with our adjusted EBITDA results for the year. Adjusted EBITDA
totaled $290.4 million or $299.2 million excluding the impact of FX. This
adjusted figure for 2009 excludes $3.6 million of costs related to our
announced transaction with Waste Services, Inc, $2 million of noncash fair
value adjustments attributable to stock options, and $1.3 million of capital
tax related to the reorganization out of the income trust capital structure. We
achieved this adjusted EBITDA on revenue of more than $1 billion. As a
percentage of revenue, adjusted EBITDA was 28.8%, a 100-basis-point improvement
over the prior year. Excluding the impact of FX, our adjusted EBITDA margin was
30%.
We generated record free
cash flow, of $114.1 million in 2009 an increase of more than 22% over 2008 and
nearly 28% increase if we were to hold currency exchange rate constant with the
prior year. We closed the year with a solid fourth quarter performance that
positions us for a promising 2010. I will review the highlights of the quarter
with you before turning to our outlook for the year ahead. Revenue in the
quarter was more than $262 million, up 7.7% over the same quarter last year. In
the US, our organic gross revenues turned positive increasing by 0.1% in the
quarter. This is nearly a 400-basis-point improvement from the negative 3.9%
organic revenue we reported in the previous quarter. In the quarter, US organic
revenue growth consisted of core price growth of 1.8% and recycling and other
pricing growth of 0.6%, offset by declines in fuel surcharges of 2.2% and a
volume decline of 0.1%. This volume performance represents a sequential
improvement of 40 basis points.
In Canada organic gross
revenue grew 2.9%, an improvement of 130 basis points over the 1.6% organic
revenue growth we reported in the third quarter of 2009. The growth in Canada
is made up of core pricing growth of 3.2% coupled with volume increase of 0.3%
and partially offset by a fuel surcharge decline of 0.6%. Recycling and other
pricing growth was basically flat.
On a combined Company
basis, our organic performance was driven by new business growth in our
commercial and residential lines of business, continued pricing strength, a
stabilizing volume environment, along with improving recycling commodity prices.
As others in our sector have noted, recycling commodity sales prices have
steadily increased throughout the fourth quarter and were significantly higher
compared with historically low prices we experienced in the same period last
year. We also note that fuel - we also note that fuel prices in the fourth
quarter a year ago began to recede, and as such comparative declines in our
fuel surcharges on a quarter over quarter basis have been recognized.
Looking at our volume
performance by segment and by business line, on a quarterly basis, we
experienced modest volume growth in Canada across our commercial, transfer, and
recycling services. Industrial collection volumes remain soft compared with the
fourth quarter last year. We also saw a slight decline in landfill volumes on a
comparative basis due to the timing of special waste projects last year. In our
US sales for the quarter we saw volume increases in our front end and
residential collection lines and at our landfills, as a result of increase
sales efforts, contract
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wins and the acquisition of the Fort Worth
Landfill midway through the year. However, we still experienced lower
comparative industrial and transfer station volume which is attributable to a
soft economic environment in parts of this region compared to the same period a
year ago.
In our US northeast we
experienced some improvements as well. In the quarter we had volume growth in
our landfill, commercial collection, transfer, and material recovery
facilities. However, we continue to experience lower industrial collection
volumes compared with one year ago.
Turning back to our
financial results for the quarter, adjusted operating income was $39.4 million,
an increase of 13.5%. Adjusted EBITDA was $75.4 million, an increase of 11.1%
from last year and representing adjusted EBITDA margins of 28.7%. Excluding the
impact of FX, adjusted EBITDA totaled $70.8 million. Free cash flow was $23.5
million in the quarter, an increase of 35% over the same quarter last year.
Excluding the impact of FX, free cash flow was $20.8 million, representing a
19.4% increase over the same period last year. While our free cash flow growth
was principally influenced by an increase in adjusted EBITDA in our Canadian
segment, we also saw a reduction in year-over-year capital and landfill asset
purchases. This is due mainly to timing of landfill self construction and gross
capital was lower as well.
Adjusted net income in
the quarter was $15.2 million, or $0.16 per diluted share compared to adjusted
net income of $10.1 million or $0.15 per diluted share in the year-ago period.
Excluding the impact of FX, adjusted net income for the quarter was $13.8
million or $0.14 per diluted share.
At this time, it should
be noted that we experienced a one-time increase in our noncash deferred tax
related to the change in capital structure from an income trust. This item
represents a $0.04 decrease in EPS for the quarter and year end. It should also
be recognized that we increased our comparative diluted share count as a result
of equity offerings completed in March and June of 2009. The per
share amounts in the fourth quarter are basically on a fully diluted base of
93.4 million shares. Our financial performance in 2009 reflects our ability to
adjust quickly to address the challenging economic environment that we have
faced. For example, we intensified our focus on areas of the business that
would not be as severely affected by the economic slowdown. We put in place
fuel hedges to reduce the impact of higher fuel prices in those areas of the
business where we cannot pass through fuel surcharges. We adjusted capital
spending recognizing both the current impact of the economic downturn and
future projected requirements. In the context of the economic environment, we
are satisfied with our accomplishments, but what made the year particularly
rewarding were our achievements in the capital markets.
We completed two
successful equity offerings, strengthened our balance sheet, and listed our
shares on the New York Stock Exchange. We exited 2009 with a much stronger
capital position and a broader base of supportive shareholders which we deeply
appreciate. In 2009 we also announced the acquisition of Waste Services. On
closing the combined company we will be North Americas third largest solid
waste management company with annualized pro forma run rate revenues in excess
of $1.5 billion. As we move forward in 2010, we will maintain our disciplined
focus on continuous improvement and value creation. And as a result, on a
stand-alone basis, we anticipate positive revenue and positive adjusted EBITDA
growth excluding the benefit of acquisitions.
In 2009, tuck-in
acquisitions remained an integral part of our growth strategy. In fact,
acquisitions contributed 0.4% to revenue growth in Canada and 1.9% in the US in
the fourth quarter. During the quarter we completed just one tuck-in
acquisition in Maryland but our M&A group is continually reviewing and
analyzing our very robust pipeline of potential deals. So as we look forward to
2010, we are, of course, committed to quickly integrating the operations of
Waste Services once this transaction is complete; but we will have the ability
in those areas of our business not affected by the merger to continue to pursue
strategic and accretive deals.
Getting back to WSI, we
have been working diligently to execute and move the closing forward. On December 10,
we announced that we had completed the due diligence process and that our Board
had received a fairness opinion from our financial advisor, JPMorgan. On December 18,
2009, we filed the required notifications and report forms with the US and
Canadian antitrust authorities. On January 19, we filed a registration
statement on Form F-4 with the SEC. The registration statement, which is
subject to SEC review contains a preliminary proxy statement and prospectus for
the proposed transaction. On that same day, the 30-day waiting period under the
US Hart-Scott-Rodino Antitrust Improvements Act of 1976 expired without a
request for additional documentation or information. Completion of the
transaction remains subject to the satisfaction or waiver of certain closing
conditions including approval from the Canadian Competition Bureau and WSI
stockholders. We continue to expect the transaction to close during the second
quarter of 2010.
We are very much looking
forward to completing our merger with Waste Services as we previously stated.
In fact, this transaction is expected to generate once again $25 million to $30
million in annual run rate synergies within two years following closing. We
believe WSI is a perfect fit for us to create additional shareholder value. As
a merged Company we will be diversified across geographic markets, customer
segments and service lines yet we will still be agile enough to maintain our
commitment to excellent customer service, environmental stewardship and
community support.
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And now I would like to
pass the call to Tom for an in-depth financial view and results of the fourth
quarter as well as provide you a detailed outlook for 2010. Tom.
Tom Cowee
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IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
Thanks, Keith, and good
morning, everyone. Im going to start with a discussion of our performance by
segment for the quarter. Revenue in our Canadian segment was approximately
$96.5 million. This was an increase of $16.2 million, or 20%, over the year-ago
period. Excluding the impact of FX of about $13.2 million, the increase is the
result of higher core price and volumes as well as acquisitions. In our US
south segment, revenue was $86.9 million, an increase of approximately $3.4
million, or 4.1% over the fourth quarter last year. The increase is due to core
price, acquisition and volume growth. We enjoyed volume growth from our
commercial, residential, and landfill businesses as a result of increased sales
efforts and contract wins. In our US northeast segment in the quarter, revenue
was $79.1 million a decline of $746,000. Landfill volumes increased while we
continued to see quarter over quarter declines in our roll-off business.
We saw pricing
improvements in our northeast commercial, industrial and residential collection
lines, but this was partially offset by pricing at our landfills and transfer
stations; however, volume growth in our landfills has offset some of the
landfills pricing declines.
Turning to operating
expenses, costs declined in our US northeast but increased in our US south and
Canada versus the same quarter last year. The increase in the Canadian segment
operating expenses is a result of an FX impact of $6.8 million. Excluding that
impact, operating costs increased $100,000. Operating costs in our US south
segment increased approximately $2.2 million, $1.5 million of that is due to
additional adjustments to our accident claim reserve. The balance of the
increase is due to higher labor costs as a result of higher collected waste
volumes partially offset by lower diesel fuel costs. In our US northeast
segment, operating costs declined approximately $2.2 million. The decline is
due to lower disposal costs as a result of the economic slowdown and lower
diesel fuel costs. In 2009 we introduced fuel hedges to help reduce the
variability of fuel changes in our business, and we will continue to actively manage
this business. Our fuel hedges currently cover approximately 40% of our diesel
fuel exposure. The balance of the exposure is managed through fuel surcharges.
Now I will turn to
SG&A expenses. SG&A expense in total increased approximately $8.8
million when we exclude the FX impact of $1.4 million. As Keith mentioned
earlier, the majority of this increase is the result of transaction and related
costs, fair value changes to stock option, and reorganization costs.
Amortization in the quarter was $36 million, an increase of $2.4 million from a
year ago. FX contributed approximately $2.2 million to the Canadian segment
amortization, excluding the impact of FX amortization was affected by changes
in our estimated landfill closure and post-closure obligations. Interest
expense of approximately $8 million represented a decline of $3.4 million
compared with the fourth quarter a year ago. Lower interest rates on borrowing
in Canada are the primary reason for the Canadian segment decline. And in the
US we benefited from a combination of lower interest rates, lower debt levels,
thanks to the net proceeds of our equity offerings in March and June 2009.
On a Company basis, cash
taxes were $20 million in 2009, lower than our mid-20s estimate we had
previously guided to. The effective tax rate for 2009 was 42%, which was higher
than the 36% range we had previously discussed. There are three primary reasons
for the increase in the tax expense. First, we have to reverse the use of loss
carry forwards in the quarter due to the strict interpretation of Canadian tax
law as it pertains to property losses being lost following our conversion from
an income trust to a corporation in October of 2008. The income trust
conversions were intended to be a 100% tax-free roll. It came to our attention
late this past year, when we collapsed the final structure that a small portion
of the rule had not been properly addressed. We believe in the future that
the Ministry of Finance will modify this law which will allow us to access to
an additional Canadian dollar $12 million of losses available to shelter
taxable income.
The current quarter
implication was to create an additional tax expense of $3.4 million, and there
is no additional tax expense related to this issue in future years. This cost
is the $0.04 per share EPS shortfall in the fourth quarter and the year that
Keith had discussed earlier. Second, we recorded withholding taxes on dividends
received from ISI to current income tax expense totaling $1 million all related
to the years 2007 through 2009. Third, state taxes in our US operations were
approximately $2.5 million higher than our original expectations. This is due
to a combination of higher percentage than originally estimated and some
true-ups related to the final approvals we received in the third quarter of
2009 because of the change in our tax appreciation method at our US landfills
from the Internal Revenue Service. I will have additional comments related to
2010 taxes in a few minutes.
Now turning to our
capital and landfill purchases. Our spending for replacement and growth capital
totaled $34.4 million in the quarter. Of this total replacement capital
represented $24.6 million and growth capital represented $9.8 million.
Excluding the impact of FX, replacement expenditures decreased compared with
the same period a year ago. The decline is primarily attributable to the timing
of landfill expenditures in both our US and Canadian segments. As a result of
lowering borrowing costs during the year combined with lower capital and landfill
purchases and contributions from increasing EBITDA, we achieved a record level
of free cash flow of $114.1 million in 2009. Of this, we returned $70.8
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million in cash
dividends to our shareholders in 2009 in the form of regular and special
dividends. After the payment of dividends, we generated free cash flow of $43
million, or $39 million calculated at parity, which is right in line with the
updated guidance we gave during our US equity offering in June of 2009 for
free cash flow after dividends in the $35 million to $45 million range
calculated at parity.
Turning to our balance
sheet, at the end of the year long-term debt stood at $655 million. Our funded
debt to EBITDA covenant calculated for our Canadian credit facility as of December 31,
2009, was 1.92 times, versus a maximum funded debt to EBITDA covenant of 2.75
times. Our funded debt to EBITDA covenant calculated for our US credit facility
as of December 31, 2009, was 2.56 times versus a maximum funded debt to
EBITDA covenant of 4 times. Holding the foreign currency rate between Canada
and the US at parity and using just the adjusted EBITDA without pro forma
adjustments for acquisitions our consolidated debt to EBITDA ratio for the Company
at December 31, 2009, was 2.16 times. At the end of the year, we had
available capacity of $339 million in our US revolving credit facility and
CAD88 million, in our Canadian revolver.
I will now turn to our
outlook for fiscal year 2010. We are providing our guidance for 2010 assuming
no change in the current economic environment and excluding the impact of the
Waste Services transaction and any other additional acquisitions we may close
in 2010. For the purposes of these estimates, we have assumed a Canadian to US
currency exchange rate of $0.952, throughout the entire year, without any
fluctuation.
I will remind everyone
that these figures are forward-looking and actual results may differ materially
depending on the risks and uncertainties. Revenue is estimated to be in the
range of $1.065 billion to $1.1 billion. Adjusted EBITDA is estimated to be in
the range of $315 million to $325 million. Amortization expense is estimated to
be in the range of 14.5% to 15% of revenue. Capital and landfill expenditures
are estimated to be in the range of $105 million to $120 million. The effective
tax rate is expected to be around 36% to 37%. And cash taxes of $32 million to
$35 million. Free cash flow is estimated to be in the range of $135 million to
$145 million, and we expect to pay our current quarterly cash dividend of
CAD0.125 for a total dividend of CAD0.50 per share in 2010.
That brings me to the
end of my comments. And I will now turn the call back to Keith. Keith.
Keith Carrigan
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Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Well, thanks, Tom, and
so before we open the lines to questions, Id just like to say that we are very
pleased with the results in the fourth quarter and for the full year, given the
difficult economic environment. Our success in the capital markets in 2009 was
also very rewarding and establishes a very strong foundation for future growth.
We look forward to a promising performance in 2010 as we continue to apply our
price volume and productivity strategies in each of the markets that we operate
in. As Tom discussed, when providing our outlook we anticipate a year of growth
and revenue, adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow. Even before additional
acquisitions or improvements in the economy. And, of course, we look forward to
closing the transaction with Waste Services and benefiting from the synergies
of our combined operations. And finally, I would like to thank our employees
for their incredibly hard work and dedication during an enormously challenging
environment during the past year. They did a great job. So thank you for
listening, and now I would like to ask the operator to open the lines to
questions.
QUESTION AND ANSWER
(Operator
Instructions). Your first question comes from Walter Spracklin from RBC Capital
Markets.
Walter Spracklin
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Markets - Analyst
On the WSI transaction.
I know, Keith, you had mentioned Q1 as the expected prior. Now you are thinking
Q2. Whats delaying -- if you look at -- you did a good job of laying out what
the process youve been going through is there anything that is sort of cropped
up that was a surprise to you thats delaying putting it into Q2?
Keith Carrigan
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Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
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No, theres not a
surprise. I think if we go back to the initial announcement, Walter, we were
hoping that we would see a closing around the end of the first quarter. Clearly
its very predictable when youre dealing with government agencies, but in
general, Id have to say that -- I wont go into details about where we are in
the process, either with the competition bureau or the SEC, but generally I
would tell that you were happy with what were seeing with the progress in
both of those processes, and so at this time, we believe that well see
something within the second quarter.
Walter Spracklin
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RBC Capital
Markets - Analyst
Okay. Now that you the
eve got another quarter under your belt for WSI as well, any indications that
would suggest you would be less able to achieve the synergies that you had
focused on before, or is everything going according to plan?
Keith Carrigan
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Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
I think were
progressing well with respect to the merger. Once again, people on both sides,
both WSI and on IESI who have been working together with respect to the synergy
plan. At this point were pretty much on schedule, and we havent seen anything
that gives us any angst with respect to the numbers that we reported in the
past, and we continue to report.
Walter Spracklin
-
RBC Capital
Markets - Analyst
Perfect. Tom, just
moving over to CapEx, guidance here, 105 to 120, I guess that compares to 122
in 09, you go back to 2007, you were doing 150. So on a comparative basis, a
lot lower. I know exchanges in there as well. But can you talk a bit about is
this just a low year and why would it be a low year, and should we ratchet it
up, or is this a -- what you consider to
be the ongoing CapEx rate excluding acquisitions?
Tom Cowee
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
Yes, I think the first
thing you have to look at, we did have a few contract wins in 2009 that pushed
our growth capital up a little bit. So I think you see a little bit of
normalization flowing through the growth capital in that area. Maintenance
capital is going to be fairly consistent year-over-year, and so I think thats
part of the reason why you see the spread of 105 to 120 is that weve got to
have some room in case we have some additional contract wins.
Walter Spracklin
-
RBC Capital
Markets - Analyst
So would we, on a
go-forward basis, use that number as a steady rate, or should we put in some
contract wins on a -- because I guess youre not accounting for much in the way
of contract wins. Is that right?
Tom Cowee
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
When we sit here today
we dont know what were going to win in terms of contracts during the year. Were
hopeful we will win some. We had an unusual year last year where we had fairly
large contracts already in our numbers so we knew it was going in to there.
Walter Spracklin
-
RBC Capital
Markets - Analyst
Last question here on
Calgary. We talked about 2010. Can you give us an update on whats going on
there?
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
I think with respect to
detail, Walter, were pleased with progress that we continue to make on
Calgary, and with the landfill. We dont expect any interruptions to service
within the next few years, and beyond that, were in a process, and again, as
you know, I dont like to discuss details, but were in a process.
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Walter Spracklin
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RBC Capital
Markets - Analyst
One last question
actually was on the reorg costs. Surprised to see it come up in the fourth
quarter. Was that a accounting issue? Why did we see the costs come up this.
Tom Cowee
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
We started collapsing
that structure in June, Walter. It took a little while for us to work through
the very complicated rules. Obviously were in February here, and it was
known before February, but it just was one of those things that from a timing
perspective took us a little time to work through.
Walter Spracklin
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RBC Capital
Markets - Analyst
Anything left in that?
Tom Cowee
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Ltd - VP, CFO
Best of our knowledge,
no, but I would have told you at the end of the third quarter if we had none,
either.
Walter Spracklin
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Markets - Analyst
Got it. Thanks very
much, guys.
Keith Carrigan
-
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Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Okay.
Your next question comes
from Scott Levine from JPMorgan. Your line is open.
Scott Levine
-
JPMorgan -
Analyst
Good mornings guys.
Tom Cowee
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
Good morning, Scott.
Scott Levine
-
JPMorgan -
Analyst
Weve seen recycled
commodity prices for OCC take off during the start of this year. I was
wondering if could you talk a little bit about what implications you might see
there in earnings sensitivity across each of your regions.
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Sure. I think, Scott that
generally its -- apart from OCC, obvious its other commodities as well were
seeing some movement in. I think a fair statement would be to say if you look
at the fourth quarter, more particularly, for example, in our northeast region,
we experienced a benefit of
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about
$400,000 of EBITDA related to commodity increases. Clearly that worked well for
us. I think generally, though, if you look at across the company, generally for
about every dollar -- or $10 of increase in commodity pricing, we'll experience
in the area of about $1.8 to $2 million of EBITDA improvement.
Scott
Levine
- JPMorgan -
Analyst
Okay. And that, you said, was companywide,
correct?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
That's correct.
Scott
Levine
- JPMorgan -
Analyst
Secondly, you mentioned the acquisition
pipeline outside of the Waste Services transaction. Maybe if you could provide
some color in terms of level of activity of dialogue, maybe serial's
expectations on pricing, any color there would be helpful.
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Sure. Once again, benefit two regions that we
have objectives that he we would like to fulfill within those two regions, and
create nice balance between all our lines of business, or a nicer balance, I
suppose, between our lines of business. So the northeast region and the south
will not be involved in the WSI transaction. So we clearly have people resources
available going forward. So we have engaged and we continue to engage in
discussions within those regions, and I should also say there are also areas in
Canada that we also look to engage in. So expect that that will continue and
carry forward. As we go into this next year, once again, we give some guidance
in terms of free cash flow. So clearly we're going to have significant free
cash flow available to utilize for these acquisitions. Now, in terms of pricing
expectations, without a doubt, as we went through 2009, traveled through 2009,
we saw pricing expectations come down. And I would say to you at this stage,
we're not seeing is any up tick on. That we've certainly seen a leveling off
that is more comparable to where our sector is trading and the cost of capital
today. So the environment certainly is a much better than it was when you go
back to early 2009 or certainly into 2008.
Scott
Levine
- JPMorgan -
Analyst
That's helpful. Thanks, Keith. One last one,
if I may. I think on the northeast, last quarter, you had indicated on the
landfill pricing side that the volumes were compensating, or more than
compensating for the pricing. It sounds like maybe that's not the case in the
fourth quarter.
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
I'd be happy to, Scott. Once again we saw an
increase in volume actually, so volumes did pick up in the northeast. But we
actually had pricing improvement when you look at our year-over-year year to
date is of about 1.7% in third party and total landfill pricing from in the
north east. So we actually saw landfill pricing improve slightly in the fourth
quarter.
Scott
Levine
- JPMorgan -
Analyst
That's helpful. Thank you.
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
You're welcome.
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Dalfen with Macquarie Capital.
Avi Dalfen
- Macquarie Research Equities -
Analyst
You mentioned that you weren't seeing lower
prices in the northeast where. Where is it that you are seeing lower landfill
prices?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Well, I mean, the -- on a year-over-year
basis, if you go back, Avi, and remember, we're talking about a comparative
basis here, the south in 2008 was one of the later regions to feel the effect
of the recession. So as we do a comparable on a period over period, we're going
to see that effect more so in the south than we would, say, for example, in the
northeast. We saw -- began to see text of the recession certainly probably in
mid-2008. So on a comparable quarter over quarter period, you are going to see
different comparables because of just the timing effect of the recession. So
landfill price in the south was basically flat on a comparable period basis.
Just as a result of timing.
Avi Dalfen
- Macquarie Research Equities -
Analyst
Just sticking with landfills for a moment,
[Seneca] Meadows, if you're able to get a rail link to that site the economics
would change significantly. Where do you stand, and what is the process and
what are the prospects.
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
First of all I don't think the economics would
change significantly. We're sufficiently close enough to the marketplace at
Seneca that really there is no significant benefit or benefit at all, quite
frankly, to rail haul, certainly at this time, and the fact is as you know,
we've put hedges on fuel costs, and principally as it relates to moving waste
up the road to Seneca. Rail would not provide a benefit. You should also note
with the WSI acquisition and various other improvements in southern Ontario
that, in fact, southern Ontario is actually closer to Seneca than some of our
other markets right now. So overall, we think the prospects are pretty good as
it relates to the landfills in the northeast. We' got a pretty good improvement
plan in store for what we're doing in the northeast US.
Avi Dalfen
- Macquarie Research Equities -
Analyst
Okay. So then you won't be pursuing a rail
link any more?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Not at this time. You're probably referring to
the fact that we were looking for federal funding. When you get federal
funding, and you have no capital expense related to a project, your return on
capital gets very good. And so as a result, we were looking to see if federal
funding might be available. Down the road there may be an opportunity at that
stage, but at this point, we're not going to pursue rail, but maybe later on,
maybe an opportunity for us.
Avi Dalfen
- Macquarie Research Equities -
Analyst
Just a stepping back and looking at that time
EBITDA margins overall, it was nice see the improvement in terms of relative to
Q4 of last year, but can we assume that the improvement would have been even a
little bit better if not for the timing of the fuel price increase and the
falling off of the surcharges? Is it it really a question here of timing that
going forward will reverse itself?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC Ltd
- Vice Chairman, CEO
Well, there's no question as fuel moves around
and we have fuel decreases on a comparative basis that you are going to have
some effect as it relates to margins. There's no doubt about that. So once
again, we've put hedges in going forward, so that puts us in a better position,
assuming
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that fuel
pricing goes up on a go forward basis. But with respect to margins, I would say
to you that it really is our model. We have a model to improve free cash flow
on our existing asset base. That's key driver within the Company. Assuming,
which we were successful once again this year, assuming once we do that then
will you naturally see margin expansion within the model. We've done that every
year. And we expect that we will do it once again next year.
Avi Dalfen
- Macquarie Research Equities -
Analyst
Thank you.
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
You're quite welcome.
Your next question comes from Michael Hoffman
from WSI. Your line is open.
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Hello, Michael.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
Good morning. Sorry about the scraggly voice.
Got a cold. Tom, can you clarify the tax issue in the fourth quarter, all those
things you told us about, they're all noncash, right?
Tom Cowee
- IESI-BFC Ltd - VP, CFO
The actual loss of the NOL in Canada did raise
our actual cash taxes for the year up, because we weren't able to use that NOL.
So that was -- that number, had we not had had that issue, would have been $16
million rather than $20 million of, cash taxes in a year. So that one did and
then the withholding tax is obviously a cash item.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
Okay. Another way to ask this, because it is
somewhat confusing, what is, on a recurring basis, all these things, if you
were looking at normal business environment, what should the earnings have been
in the fourth quarter, in your mind?
Tom Cowee
- IESI-BFC Ltd - VP, CFO
Well, that would have -- it's roughly a total
of $6 million, and so we honestly think that probably 5 of that would have been
normalized, and the rest of it is more a one-time event.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
Okay. Keith, on price, on your guidance, can
you break out for us by region what your thoughts are on price volume full and
commodities for Canada, US north and the south?
Keith
Carrigan
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Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
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I think I just gave you the whole Company, but
most of the commodities that we generate, you go back to the $1.8 million for
every $10 movement in commodities, I would say to you that roughly about
$700,000 would be northeast, and in Canada, you were talk roughly about $1.2
million.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
That's in your guidance?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
That is -- assuming that prices remain
constant going forward, it's including at today's pricing in the guidance. If
they go up, obviously we'll get a benefit going up.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
What is your price outlook for Canada and
what's your price outlook for US north, US south?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
We haven't given the exact price as we
forecast going forward, but I would say to you that certainly Canada is the
prognosticator are suggesting that Canada is on the move with respect to GDP
growth. So we have put respective GDP growth it relates to Canada going
forward. So we expect that we will get -- continue to get similar pricing that
we've experienced in the past, and potentially we might after very slight
impact on growth, but again, we're taking somewhat of a conservative approach
there and perhaps if the prognosticator are right we'll even do better in
Canada going forward. In the US, again, we're looking at projections, the
economists are telling us in the US that the growth in GDP will be slightly
lower than Canada. So as a result, we once again take a conservative approach.
We've put a reflective combination of price and volume going up. Again, in the
northeast, I should mention, in all of our collection lines of business in the
northeast, on a year-over-year basis we were up in price. So we continue to
believe that we'll be up in price in all our collection areas in the northeast
continued going forward again this year, and as I mentioned earlier, we saw
pricing improvement on our landfill of 1.7%, and we believe that we've got a
better program going forward as it relates to volumes coming into our landfills
in the northeast in 2010.
So as a
result, we should even see some better pricing in 2010 on a comparable basis at
our landfills in the northeast. With respect to the south, once again, we saw
pricing improvements in all our collection lines of business in the south. In
spite of the fact that we had had significant downturn in roll-off volume in
the south on a year-over-year basis, and so consequently we're reflecting price
and volume as it relates to GDP growth in the south going forward.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
And I'm assuming fuel you're assuming flat at
this point, no impact one way or the other?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
We're pretty much, between our hedging now and
between our ability to put through fuel surcharges, we're in a very, very good
shape with respect to movement of fuel prices through 2010.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
As I tried to disaggregate data that was
provided, I had this impression that price -- you gain market share in the
south is and it looks like at the expense of price. If that's not correct, then
can you help me?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
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No, that's not because we're up in price in
most of our lines of business and up in volume. So we did not give up price in
our collection operations to attract volume.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
Glad to hear that. And then just to clarify
(inaudible) suggested that pricing had firmed in their part of the world. I
think I heard you answer subsequently someone's question that you felt that
pricing had firmed in the north as well.
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Well, again, once again, we've seen price up
in the northeast, and on a year-over-year basis at our landfills in the
quarter, we saw pricing improvement of about 1.7%.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
Okay. And then has any WSI volume moved into
your landfills yet, and was some of that in the fourth quarter? Any of it in
the first quarter yet?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
There was some slight volume movement that we
had. I wouldn't say that it's material at this stage. We'll see some much more
material differences once we complete the merger.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the delay that's
occurred is mostly bureaucratic. The SEC required you to do three year audited
US GAAP financials and that added four weeks to the process. And other than
that everything is on track.
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Yes, we feel pretty good about it, the number
of comments that came back were relatively low relative to the size of the
document so we feel pretty good about where we are with the SEC, again. Again,
the competition bureau, I don't like to comment on details, but we're certainly
not unhappy with the progress that's been made since we started the process
back in December.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
Okay. And you are into -- you expect it to be,
but you're in the second request cycle, right?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
We're in the second request cycle. We are --
again, we're submitting some information. They have a 30-day period that he
they have to respond. We'll be completed with the information request very,
very shortly.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
Okay. And it's your expectation would you have
to drop in audited financials to the final document, so that would impact the
shareholder vote for WSI. That's one of the other sort of queueing effects
here, right?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
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Correct.
Michael
Hoffman
- WSI -
Analyst
Great. Thank you.
Your next question comes from Bob Gibson from
Octagon Capital. Your line is open.
Bob Gibson
- Octagon Capital - Analyst
you commented on your amortization rate for
your Company. Could you give us some guidance of what it might be for the whole
consolidated Company, once you've merged?
Tom Cowee
- IESI-BFC Ltd - VP, CFO
I didn't bring that with me. Obviously we're
still in the process of fair valuing the balance sheet, Bob, and it will depend
on what the final purchase price of the stock price is but it is going to go up
some, and you're going to have the fair value adjustments obviously in the
Canadian business, and fair value of the Florida business. That process won't be
finalized, obviously, until right before the acquisition. But in our F-4 there
were some initial numbers related to that process. I just don't remember the
exact percent.
Bob Gibson
- Octagon Capital - Analyst
Okay. And the synergies, can you kind of give
us a flavor for a lot of low-hanging fruit, so we should see most of the
synergies this year, or how does it look?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Bob, I'm not going to comment on the synergies
at this stage while the competition bureau is in the process of reviewing our
program.
Bob Gibson
- Octagon Capital - Analyst
Okay. That's it, thanks.
Your next question comes from Youssef Abboud
with Clarus Securities.
Youssef
Abboud
- Clarus
Securities - Analyst
Good morning. Just a question on the Waste
Service acquisition. Tom, you mentioned last time going through the $400
million debt that Waste Services carry on their balance sheet through borrowing
from revolving credit facility. How is the progress on that front? I know their
acquisition is not yet completed. Is it still in the same framework? That's
what you're planning?
Tom Cowee
- IESI-BFC Ltd - VP, CFO
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Yes, I don't really have any new, additional
updates specifically to that from what we originally announced. I think that
plan is still heading in the exact direction we've stated prior. We're excited
about the fact that the credit markets continue to improve, and I think overall
if we're sitting here today versus when we announced the transaction we would
expect to see a 25, 50-basis-point reduction in some of the credits that we
will put in place related to this transaction. So overall, timing seems to be
helping us in this process, and we will obviously have have these all in place
and in time for the transaction to close.
Youssef
Abboud
- Clarus
Securities - Analyst
Yes. And this is related to the whole $400
million debt to be financed, not only a portion of it?
Tom Cowee
- IESI-BFC Ltd - VP, CFO
Just to be clear, what we said, we're going to
put a new Canadian credit facility in place for $450 million. We said we would
use the existing US credit facility to fund their US dollar debt.
Youssef
Abboud
- Clarus
Securities - Analyst
Okay. And my second question is, Keith, on the
volume side, quarter on quarter comparison, Q4 versus Q3, can you elaborate on
each segment in terms whether we've seen volume close in each of the regions?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Sure. I would say to you that Canada has been
very consistent. We've had good growth throughout the year. Once again, we see
the economy pick up a little bit, so we're certainly seeing some trending as it
relates to additional growth as it relates to Canada going forward. With
respect to the northeast, as mentioned earlier in the call and I guess by our
peers as well, we've certainly seen a stabilization factor in the northeast,
and I would say to you that the growth is very moderate at this stage. The US
south with respect to commercial growth and recycling, et cetera we are seeing
slightly continued growth in that area. We're not seeing any growth in
construction and demolition, however, in the south or certainly in the
northeast at this particular time. Does that answer that for you, Youssef?
Youssef
Abboud
- Clarus
Securities - Analyst
That's fine. Just moving to the pricing, I
notice your US pricing was not as strong compared to your peers, if I look at
the core pricing increase. The competitors, like Waste Connection, Republic.
Why is that this? Is it because of the northeast issue?
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Once again, all of our collection operations,
basically, are up in price in both the south and the northeast. So we're very
pleased. And, in fact, I would say to you we're certainly in a comparable
position. The landfill pricing, particularly third-party pricing at our
landfills in the northeast, on a quarter or year-over-year basis -- again, remember,
we're doing a comparable here -- was certainly lower and did impact, and again,
I will go back to the fact that our internalization rate in the northeast has
roughly been about 38%, so don't have the full flow-through ability to counter
third-party pricing. However, again, I would highlight two pieces. One is that
pricing did improve by 1.7% in our landfills in the northeast in the last
quarter, so that's a good trend as we see moving up. And in addition to that,
with the reorganization ability that we will have in 2010, we anticipate that
will have a positive impact with respect to pricing -- landfill pricing in the
northeast as well.
Youssef
Abboud
- Clarus
Securities - Analyst
One last question to Tom. The free cash flow
guidance you price, just to confirm this is before dividend right?
Tom Cowee
- IESI-BFC Ltd - VP, CFO
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Correct.
Youssef
Abboud
- Clarus
Securities - Analyst
Okay, thank you very much.
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
You're welcome.
Your next question comes from the line of Bill
Fisher from Raymond James. Your line is open.
Keith
Carrigan
- IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Good morning, Bill.
Bill Fisher
- Raymond
James - Analyst
Most of my questions are answered. Couple
things. Tom, on the debt on the Waste Services debt, is it safe to say you
would be making all those determinations concurrent or shortly after you close
the deal, on what you do there?
Tom Cowee
- IESI-BFC Ltd - VP, CFO
I think our strategy, Bill, would be to have
all those in place prior to closing. There are some timing issues that we
continue to work through, the and we'll have to make sure that can happen but
our intention would be to have everything button up at closing.
Bill Fisher
- Raymond
James - Analyst
You mentioned, I think it was closure
adjustment on landfill. Do you have what that was in the quarter?
Tom Cowee
- IESI-BFC Ltd - VP, CFO
Actually, I think that closure adjustment
really pertains to prior year. There was some fair value adjustments to our ARO
calculation in the fourth quarter last year. So on a year-over-year comparative
basis it looks like it's up and it's actually just normalized now versus the
fair value adjustments in '08.
Bill Fisher
- Raymond
James - Analyst
That's on the landfill amortization?
Tom Cowee
- IESI-BFC Ltd - VP, CFO
Yes.
Bill Fisher
- Raymond
James - Analyst
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Okay. But it was down --
so the decline there year-over-year was more because the last year figure was
higher?
Tom Cowee
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
Yes.
Bill Fisher
-
Raymond
James - Analyst
Think about that it way?
Tom Cowee
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
No, wrong way. Sorry.
The decline have last year. Its up this year.
Bill Fisher
-
Raymond
James - Analyst
In the fourth quarter.
Tom Cowee
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
Yes.
Bill Fisher
-
Raymond
James - Analyst
And just, Keith, on the
1.7 disposal is that year-over-year or sequentially on the northeast?
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Thats a year-over-year.
Bill Fisher
-
Raymond
James - Analyst
Okay. Great. Thank you.
Your next question comes
from Rupert Merer from National Bank Financial. Your line is open.
Rupert Merer
-
National
Bank Financial - Analyst
Thanks. Good morning.
Just a few questions on the merger. Youve given some guidance on the capital
spending for WSI and BIN on a stand-alone basis. Will the merger impact the
combine capital expenditures at all or should we assume theyre additive?
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
We will have obviously
positive benefit as you put the two companies together with respect to CapEx
expenditures going forward, Rupert, because clearly we will not require all
that type of equipment as we combine routes, et cetera, et cetera. So there will
be clearly a synergy as it relates to CapEx spending.
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Rupert Merer
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National
Bank Financial - Analyst
A sense of what the
magnitude of that synergy could be?
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
With the competition
bureau process going forward I think its premature for us to give that
information out.
Rupert Merer
-
National
Bank Financial - Analyst
It fair enough. Another
swing at this, as far as the EBITDA synergy goes, without going into any more
detail, can you give any sense of what the timing might look like with these
things typically play out significant in the first year? Are we looking at more
of a longer-term proposition?
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Again, I wont go into
detail, but I think its probably pretty general for people to expect that we
have two corporations, two corporate offices. Theres clearly going to be
synergies. We ever duplicate facilities in locations that there are clear
synergies for. A lot of those issues you can deal with relatively quickly. Wed
like to see them dealt with. A good portion of them in the first year. Or
before the year end. Thats clearly an objective. There are other issues as it
relates to putting information technology together that sometimes may drag a
little bit longer. But at the end of the day we pretty much have them listed.
Our objective is to create synergies as quickly as possible. Its in
everybodys benefit to see that happen.
Rupert Merer
-
National
Bank Financial - Analyst
Great, thanks. Can you
give us a sense of what additional one-time costs might look like for the
transaction?
Tom Cowee
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
Additional would be -- I
think originally we said we thought there was going to be about $35 million of
one-time costs. We probably would say thats a little higher today, so right
now, probably about the same, $35 million. That includes severance costs,
restructuring fees, things like that as well.
Rupert Merer
-
National
Bank Financial - Analyst
Great. Then just one
more with the timing of the transaction. How should we be modeling this? Should
we be looking at closing closer to the end Q2 at this point?
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Whenever were dealing
with government agencies, theyre not always predictable, even though there are
time requirements with the agencies. So for us to give you an exact date I
think would probably be premature at this time, Rupert.
Rupert Merer
-
National Bank
Financial - Analyst
Thats all I have. Thank
you very much.
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
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Youre quite welcome.
Your next question comes
from Jason Granger from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Jason Granger
-
BMO Capital
Markets - Analyst
Thanks, good morning,
guys.
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Good morning, Jason.
Jason Granger
-
BMO Capital
Markets - Analyst
Looking at tax rate
guidance for 2010, Tom, youre talking about 36, 37% excluding any impact from
the WSI transaction or other acquisition. Assuming the WSI transaction goes
through here, can you give us a sense of what that tax rate would look like in
2010?
Tom Cowee
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
Im going to say roughly
the same. We obviously, at this point, have focused more on what their cash
taxes are, but having looked at some of that I would say its going to be the
Canadian tax rate is not going to change dramatically. The US tax rate, were
going to be in a loss situation, so really the only variable in that whole
process is going to be the Florida state taxes, and so it could float that
around a 1%, but other than that it should not be significantly different.
Jason Granger
-
BMO Capital
Markets - Analyst
Okay. Cash taxes as a
percent of earnings before taxes drop off significantly?
Tom Cowee
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
I havent done that
math. I know what their cash taxes are to the dollar figure but I havent done
it on that basis.
Jason Granger
-
BMO Capital
Markets - Analyst
Fair enough. Just
looking at US northeast, US south industrial segments, when recovery does start
to take hold more meaningfully which region would you expect to snap back
first?
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Well, thats
interesting. I guess if you look at that time economists, the economists are
saying theres an inverse relationship always to where the recession occurs and
where it picks up again. So if theyre correct, then would you see the south
pick up a little quicker than the northeast. Obviously we know about Canada.
Canada is moving forward. We anticipate that we -- in fact, were seeing
significant, or well call it increases right now, in just about all our areas
in Canada. So at the end of the day, it becomes a question of what you see by --
whether the prognosticator are correct in terms of when and whether we see an
inverse cycle. But having said that we dont wait for the economy. We have our
own plans for improvement, both in the northeast and in the south and with the
projections that we have -- the forecasts that weve given going forward, weve
taken somewhat of a conservative approach with respect to those plans going
forward. So we feel very good about the forecast that you are seeing.
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Jason Granger
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BMO Capital
Markets - Analyst
Okay. And the 2010
guidance here, $3.15 to $3.25, that implies an EBITDA, ex-WSI that implies
EBITDA margin in the range of 29.5%. How do you see margins improving by
region? Where should we look -- how should we look at your margin
year-over-year change by region in terms of the most opportunity up side? Well,
I think really look at the whole model completely.
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Wed like to see
basically, within all of our collection operations, we like to see margin
improvement of 1% or better. Depending on landfall pricing where you dont
necessarily have the ability to attain volume caps on landfills, then youre on
taking price only. The landfills would drag total margin expansion down
slightly. However, the collection companies will improve better than 1%. So if
you were to go back and look at our history, and ex out acquisitions, you see
that every year on our base business, we have increased margin expansion by
better than 1%. So we continue to see that going forward. You sought in 2009,
2008, as indicate. We continue to see that in the model. The only issue that creates
a drag then is acquisitions, because typically acquisitions that we bring in do
not come in at that time comparative EBITDA percentage. So usually acquisitions
will come in around the EBITDA margins, or 20%. So depending on how material
they are to the total corporation, well have that impact on the total
corporations overall EBITDA. But on base business we like to see margin
expansion of at least a percentage point or better.
Jason Granger
-
BMO Capital
Markets - Analyst
Okay. Thats helpful. Thanks.
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Youre welcome.
Your next question comes
from Jonathan Ellis from Bank of America. Your line is open.
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Good morning, John.
Jonathan Ellis
-
Bank of
America - Analyst
Good morning. This is
Jay for Jonathan Ellis.
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
How are you?
Jonathan Ellis
-
Bank of
America - Analyst
Hi. I joined late so I
apologize in advance if my questions have been answered or discussed. My first
question, what is the mix of MSW, C&D and Special Waste that you receive at
your landfills, and are you seeking to increase special waste participation?
Keith Carrigan
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IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
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First of all, with
respect to the combination of C&D, we dont publish that number because
that number is literally changing, and weve certainly seen a change on an
ongoing basis as a result of the last year. So each and every year as it
relates to special waste. We usually look at C&D and special waste in most
of our landfills where we have combinations as one unit combined. So to be able
to break out C&D in non-C&D landfills would be very difficult to do, as
well as obviously the economy is moving those combinations around. So thats
not a number that we will focus on as an independent number.
Jonathan Ellis
-
Bank of
America - Analyst
Okay. And my second
question, what would be the cash impact of bonus depreciation rules that
got extended?
Tom Cowee
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - VP, CFO
For us, very little,
because weve got some very large NOLs right now, and as weve publicly stated
before in the US, we dont plan to start paying federal taxes other than AMT until
still in late 2012 and 2013.
Jonathan Ellis
-
Bank of
America - Analyst
Okay. Thats it for me.
Thank you.
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Great, thank you.
Your next question comes
from Neal forester from Genuity Capital. Your line is open.
Neal Forester
-
Genuity
Capital - Analyst
Just wanted to ask a
quick follow-up on the margin discussion and Ill focus here on to try and get
a sense of margin in the WSI merger world. And LIFO cuss on the Canadian
segment. WSI has EBITDA margins which are lower than IBFCs. So are we to
assume theres going to be a period of lower margins in the Canadian and if so,
how long do you think through greater internalization through the merger that
you can drive margins back up to where they are right now?
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
I think theres a couple
of pieces to your question. First of all, I believe that the -- that WSIs
margins, I just add quick look at their results prior to the call, but I believe
theyre running about 25% as opposed to 20% right now. So at the end of the
day, they will have an impact clearly with respect to existing margins in the
corporation, however, once again, their Canadian margins are slightly higher
but not as high as our Canadian margins. So we look at that obviously as an
opportunity. In addition to that, youd want to recognize the fact that, when
you look at the $25 million to $30 million of synergies, between the two
companies, and factor that back in, that you see overall that you dont see a
deterioration as it rerates to todays margins. With those synergies included
back in. So clearly two answers as it relates to Canada. We will have an
opportunity, even above and apart from the synergies over time to bring that base
up to our Canadian base of EBITDA percentage which, aus know has been ranging
in the 35% to 37% range. So thats an opportunity value that attaches itself to
the acquisition. And once again, weve seen some WSI has seen some improvement
in their Florida operations as well, so we anticipate that that is certainly a
good sign for overall EBITDA percentage for the corporation. Does that answer
that?
Neal Forester
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Genuity
Capital - Analyst
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So the synergies should,
once theyre in place, they should result in flat margins versus what you have
right now, then theres some opportunity for up side beyond the 35% or so that
youre generating in Canada.
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
We absolutely believe
thats the occasions yes.
Neal Forester
-
Genuity
Capital - Analyst
Perfect, second question
is just on EPS accretion. When you guys announced the deal, you guys stayed in
the press release that you expected EPS to be accretive, sorry, you expected
the deal to be accretive to EPS and free cash flow in the first year following
closing. But in the F-4 document it states within three years of closing so I
wonder if your expectations have changed there?
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
No, they dont. When we
say first year, by the way that infers one full year, not necessarily a
calendar year that were talking about, and we will be in a run rate position
within the first year of achieving those results. As we report through
documentation, obvious theres a conservative nature that gets implied to those
documents, and so we have not changed our expectations, and, again, youre
looking at that time conservative flavor in terms of filing on the F-4.
Neal Forester
-
Genuity
Capital - Analyst
Thanks, thats helpful.
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Okay. Thank you.
There are no further
questions. Mr. Carrigan, you may continue with closing remarks.
Keith Carrigan
-
IESI-BFC
Ltd - Vice Chairman, CEO
Sure. Well, I want to
thank everyone, once again, for joining us on the call. In spite of the fact
that 2009 was a challenging year, I believe that were very, very happy with
the results as I indicated through call today, in all our regions, its set us
up very nicely as we move into 2010, and so as we sit here today, we feel
pretty optimistic, in terms of where were going in 2010, were looking forward
very much to the acquisition of WSI. As we investigate more, we certainly feel
that the fit is going to be a very significant fit as it relates to value
within the corporation going forward. So once again, were looking forward to
2010. Thank you very much for joining us. And well look forward to hearing and
seeing you on our next conference call. Thank you.
This
concludes todays conference call. You may now disconnect.
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